Enneagram Five

For deep thinkers who want to fully live. Go past the stereotypes and delve into what it's really like to navigate life and personal growth as an Enneagram Type 5. Join Cody Harris (5w6 SP/SX/SO) and Josiah Goff (5w4 SO/SX/SP), as well as a community of other Fives, as we explore a different aspect ...

Recent Episodes

[LIVE] Do Fives Hate the Holidays?
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Dec. 16, 2025

[LIVE] Do Fives Hate the Holidays?

The holidays are supposed to be joyful. For a lot of Fives, they’re also complicated. In this final live episode of the year, Josiah and Cody check back in after a break, reflect on what the holidays stir up for Fives, and look honestly at where they’ve grown and where they still default to comfort. From gift-giving anxiety to nostalgia, grief, creativity, and energy management, this episode is a wide-ranging, deeply Five conversation about endings, transitions, and what we want to carry forw...
Better Off Alone: Can Enneagram 5s really live with other people?
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Nov. 26, 2025

Better Off Alone: Can Enneagram 5s really live with other people?

Fives grow up believing self-reliance is safety, but what happens when that belief turns into a voice that's constantly whispering you’re better off alone? In this episode, we go deep into the tension between independence and connection, the pain of carrying unmet childhood needs into adulthood, and what happens when life forces you to confront the stories you’ve been living inside without even knowing it. Josiah opens up about one of the hardest seasons of his life: marriage struggles, identity
Is Josiah Really a Five?
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Nov. 11, 2025

Is Josiah Really a Five?

Has anyone ever told you that you’re not really a Five? In this episode, Cody stages an intervention (armed with four years of transcripts, Enneagram books, and a surprising analysis from ChatGPT) to settle an ongoing debate: Is Josiah actually a Five… or a Three in disguise? What starts as a lighthearted experiment turns into one of the most personal and revealing conversations we’ve ever had about identity, burnout, belonging, and what it really means to grow beyond your type. IN THIS EPISO...
Intellect vs. Intelligence: Do we rely too much on our analytical mind as an Enneagram 5?
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Oct. 28, 2025

Intellect vs. Intelligence: Do we rely too much on our analytical mind as an Enneagram 5?

Fives are proud of being “smart.” But what if that thing we trust most is also the thing holding us back? In this episode, we talk about the difference between intellect and intelligence, and why Fives tend to obsess over one while ignoring the other. We get into why being analytical can make you feel powerful but also isolated, emotionally numb, disconnected from your body, and limited in real life. We also share how we’ve been building other forms of intelligence like emotional awareness, body
Hard Work & Motivation: What does effort really look like as an Enneagram 5?
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Oct. 14, 2025

Hard Work & Motivation: What does effort really look like as an Enneagram 5?

Hard work is a virtue… until it becomes a trap. In this episode, we explore how Fives relate to hard work, motivation, and the stories we’ve inherited about what effort should look like. We unpack our personal histories (lazy labels, blue-collar expectations, engineering hacks, and chronic fatigue) and how all of that shaped our relationship to discipline and purpose. We also dive deep into the myth of "working smarter not harder,” the allure of flow state, and the surprising ways hard work c...

Reviews

Finally! I don't feel alone as a 5 💙

"Being a five in the enneagram often feels lonely. I am thrilled to finally have a space where I can learn alongside other fives."

BCGoldcoast | June 17, 2024

So well done

"I’m new to learning about the enneagram and think I might be a five, but needed to learn more. One episode in (the one about female fives) and I am hooked. Such a thoughtful and well done podcast. I …"

elskermeg | Nov. 16, 2023

What a great show

"Enneagram Fives aren't always represented on other enneagram podcasts, probably because many of us aren't comfortable speaking up and/or exposing ourselves. So it is a balm to my soul to hear the hos…"

BBDSP | Dec. 3, 2022