Episodes

Fives crave clarity, but expectations make everything fuzzy. In this episode, we wrestle with how expectations shape our creative process, our friendships, and our self‑story—often without us noticing. We start with the behind‑the‑scenes saga of trying (for the third time!) to record this conversat…

In this live episode, we dig into a common belief about Fives that seems flattering on the surface but gets more complicated the deeper you go. We talk about what listening actually looks like for us, why presence is harder t...

Fives often imagine themselves outside of time, but aging has a way of forcing us back into reality. In this episode, we explore how Fives experience getting older—from bodies that don’t bounce back the way they used to, to the existential weight of midlife, to the surprising hope that comes with p…

Some people think procrastination is just poor time management, but for Fives it’s often much deeper. In this episode, we explore how procrastination shows up for us in uniquely Five ways, from building things up in our heads until they feel impossible, to putting off the projects we care about mos…

Fives are known for their sharp minds, but does that mean we think we’re smarter than everyone else? In this live episode, we take on a common misconception about Fives—arrogance—and explore where it comes from, why it isn’t the whole story, and what’s really going on beneath the surface. Along the…

What happens when you're a Five and a mom? This week’s episode is a special podcast takeover by Enneagram experts Sam E. Greenberg, PhD and Melissa Kircher—both Fives and both moms. They swap stories, laugh about their quirks, and get painfully honest about the challenges and strengths of navigatin…

Some rabbit holes are deeper than others, and as Fives we often fall in headfirst. In this episode, we explore the obsessive way Fives pursue information: how it starts, what fuels it, and what happens when it spirals out of control. We share personal stories of late-night research binges, conspira…

We Fives often pride ourselves on intellect, but emotional intelligence is a whole different skill set. In this episode, Sam E. Greenberg, PhD. joins us to explore what emotional intelligence actually means, why it's challeng...

Fives often feel like outsiders, but what if the group we’ve always longed for already exists? In this episode, we invite two longtime friends to join us for a candid conversation about what it’s really like to be friends wit...

In this live episode, we explore a surprising tension many Fives feel: the deep desire to be known and understood, and the equally strong instinct to hide. We unpack what’s really behind our aversion to vulnerability, how our...

Fives pride ourselves on independence, but friendship requires letting people in. In this honest and deeply personal episode, we explore what friendship means to us as Fives—and why it’s so complicated. We share stories of ho...

This is an After Thoughts episode, an unstructured, unedited debrief of everything we didn't say in the last episode—this time unpacking our conversation on intuition . And boy, does this one take some turns... We get into ho...

Fives rely on analysis and clarity, but intuition offers something logic can't: a deeper wisdom that defies explanation. In this episode, we explore what intuition is, why Fives struggle to trust it, and how embracing it can ...

Can Fives really be expressive and outgoing? The stereotype says no—but we’re here to challenge that idea. In this episode, we unpack the myth that Fives are always quiet, reserved, and withdrawn, and we share our own experie...

Fives value logic and control, but anxiety challenges both. In this episode, we explore how Fives experience anxiety, why we often rationalize instead of feeling it, and how avoiding it can make things worse. We share persona...

What's your attachment style as a Type 5? In this season finale episode, Sam E. Greenberg joins us again to walk us through Attachment Theory and what we can learn about being a Five by studying the different Attachment Style...

What keeps Type 5s from connecting? In this episode, we delve into Josiah's experience of identifying and dismantling the things that were holding him back from connecting with others, and why connection is so important for F...

Are you on the spectrum or are you a Type 5? In this episode, we join Sam E. Greenberg to explore the overlap of traits between being a Five and being on the autism spectrum. We also talk through Cody's experience of being di...

How do Type 5's feel about commitment? In this episode we share how we've handled various types of commitment as Fives and how we might approach commitment in a way that doesn't burn us out. If you've ever struggled with comm...

How do Type 5s feel about incompetance? In this episode, we delve into why we get so triggered when people around us are incompatent, why Fives have a fear of incompetance, and what steps we can take to start overcoming this ...

How do Type 5s handle being part of a family? In this episode, we delve into what family life was like growing up as Fives, how useful the internal family systems framework is, and what we want our own family dynamics to be. ...

What do Type 5s think about therapy? In this episode, we sit down with Liz Landry, friend of the show and licensed therapist, to talk through what to expect from therapy as a Five, what has held us back from going to therapy ...

What are Type 5s like when they're high? Maybe that's a question you've never asked, but this is our most requested episode. And it's a bunch of nonsense, so you're welcome :-) Want to know what other Fives are saying about t...

How do Type 5s deal with feeling down? In this episode, we dive into what it feels like to be depressed as a Five, various triggers that cause us to feel down, and some techniques we've used to climb back out of the abyss. If...